Non Military Organisations with Extraterrestrial Links
Which non military organisations have links with extraterrestrial entities?
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Which non military organisations have links with extraterrestrial entities?
Would you consider religions like Aetherius, the Khao Kala Hill Group, Ummo cults, Unarius, and Valley of the Dawn as non military organizations? I suppose some of their members could be military veterans. On a more sinister note, some of those religions could have been secretly started by militaries as secret projects to test the limits of belief.
Does Scientology have some extraterrestrial belief systems in its structure?
Yes, but Scientology only reveals their extraterrestrial belief systems to members after they have attained the highest levels (after paying a great amount of money). They say that if you know about the Galactic Overlord Xenu before you are ready, you get pneumonia. An episode of the crude cartoon South Park leaked the story to the world in colorful animation. I saw it. Writers of older religions' texts underestimated timescales. Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard did the opposite, overestimated the ages of Hawaii's volcanoes. L. Ron Hubbard was in the U.S. Navy. Scientology's organizational structure is modelled on the Navy's.
Crikey wonderful insight Reanemus thanks and the perfect example of the category discussion. I wonder if Tom Cruise caught pneumonia in his ascendence to the top?
I learned this from A&E's series Going Clear after I had already seen the episode of South Park. That episode was the reason why the chef character Chef disappeared when the late great actor and singer Isaac Hayes left quit the show. Creators Parker and Stone were harassed and stalked by members of Scientology after the episode aired. Scientology considers everything L. Ron. Hubbard ever wrote as sacred text including science fiction books like Battlefield Earth. Remember L. Ron Hubbard was with Jack Parsons during a working said to be the cause of UFO sightings in the 20th Century.
Is it them that allegedly opened a portal?
That is what the Collins Elite believe according to what an informant called Richard Duke told Nick Redfern. See the quotes from Final Events by Nick Redfern in parts of this series posted by Recluse.
More recently, in July of this year, Christopher Knowles wrote this blog post about Jack Parsons.
Yes, according to this article from the Book of Thoth Website on Whitley Strieber's website, in 1946 L. Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons reopened a portal Crowley had created in 1918.
I already pasted that URL in an earlier discussion.
This article by Brian Anderson about Jack Parsons and alleged portal opening contains concise and helpful information.
Does any of this explain the origins of any extraterrestrial belief systems in Scientology's structure?
We have probably overlooked one of the most famous organisations with massive links to many things that have extraterrestrial links-The Freemasons
History suggests that the Masons have had more than a loose link to NASA. Nasa's origins are said to have been influenced by the masons.
The Masons have left their mark at Denver airport where many suggest a secret underground base with extraterrestrial links exists.
Are Freemasons considered non military? Their membership includes military veterans, but is the organization considered a military? That could be the case if Freemasons trace their lineage back to the military order of the Knights Templar. Legends of their extraterrestrial links probably originate in their reverence of the stars Sirius possibly going all the way back to ancient mystery cults.
Have you seen this article by Stephanie Relfe and Michael Relfe?
You may have also seen this pin.
I cannot think of any other non military organizations proven to have links with extraterrestrial entities. Of course, there are many rumors about governments and corporations.
Not sure of any military agenda. I recall being invited 3 times to join the masons in my past, although politely declining on each occasion. For no other reason than the sponsers politely declining my request of what to expect along the masonic pathway.
Your reference to the Knights Templar immediately reminds me of the plot line to the Da Vinci Code. It was said that the Knights Templar were the custodians of the blood line for Christ. If the suggestions that christ was an avatar have any validity, then that could lead one to suggest that the Knights Templar were ultimately protecting the origins of extraterrestrial links.
The Knights Templar amassed a great amount of Ancient Middle Eastern treasure during the Crusades. Could some of that treasure have been clues to knowledge of history? The Knights Templar were said to venerate St. John the Baptist. Oddly enough, St. Johns' Day and St. Johns' Eve are significant dates in the modern history of UFOs. The origin of the name John can be traced back to the name Jonah and further back to Oannes the Greek name for Uanna, an Upkallu in Mesopotamian mythology said by some to be an ancient alien. Allen H. Greenfield wrote about this in the books Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts and Secret Rituals of the Men In Black. This post on 0knight.wordpress.com contains a quote from and a link to Secret Rituals of the Men in Black by Allen H. Greenfield.
These two articles tell the legend of Oannes and how Carl Sagan spoke about the legend in his book Intelligent Life in the Universe launched in 1966.
Jason Colavito does not agree.
Carl Sagan and Frank Drake were members of the Order of the Dolphin who proposed SETI.
Was the Order of the Dolphin a non military organization proven to have had links with extraterrestrial entities? If that is the case, then they were secretly communicating with extraterrestrial entities while claiming they had found none. According to the account of Oscar given by researcher Forest Crawford in the Spring, 1991 issue of "UFO JOURNAL OF FACTS" in The Secrets of the Mojave, Frank Drake was in charge of a crash retrieval operation.
I do not know if the story is true or not. I found the story in Doug Webber's blog.
Frank Drake is most famous for the Drake Equation. Frank Drake proposed Project OZMA, named after a princess in the books written by Frank L. Baum. Frank Drake pointed telescopes at Eridanus and Cetus looking for signs of intelligent life and beamed radio messages toward those two constellations. Perhaps Frank Drake was aware of something if the legends are true.
Is the Findhorn Foundation a non military organization with links to extraterrestrial entities?
Found in a link on Recluse's blog.
Quote from a website not found in a link in that blog.
"Yes, aliens. The official Findhorn website states: 'The Findhorn Community was begun in 1962 by Peter and Eileen Caddy and Dorothy Maclean. All three had followed disciplined spiritual paths for many years and had been specifically trained to follow God’s will'. But 1962 was merely when Peter, Eileen and Dorothy moved to Findhorn. The Findhorn Community’s true origins lie in the 1950s, in the maelstrom of post-war fringe ideas and philosophies which eventually settled out as what we now call the ‘New Age’. Central to Findhorn’s origins lies a secret which the current leaders of the community would very much like to play down; flying saucers. For all their talk of the Community being formed by the guidance of God one of the core beliefs held by Findhorn’s founders in the ’50s and 60s was that flying saucers existed, existed and their occupants were in psychic contact with them. It was also an article of faith that physical contact with the saucers was not only possible, it was certain."
Would you consider Scientology a non military organization? Scientology has a military. L .Ron Hubbard was in the U.S. Navy. Stephanie Relfe used techniques gleaned from the research of L. Ron Hubbard to help Michael Relfe while an enlisted man in the U.S. Navy.
From the publicity received (mostly derogatory)I guess it would be deemed as non military, although some of their practices are worthy of mention alongside Guantanamo Bay detention camp!
The interrogation methods used at Guantanamo Bay are similar to techniques developed by the CIA's Project Bluebird later renamed Project Artichoke for mind control. Would you consider the group called the "psychic mafia" a military organization with extraterrestrial links?
I have never come across the term psychic mafia. The CIA mind control projects I believed centred around LSD and other chemical substances although it was said hypnosis played a part.
Here are some pages that list something called the "psychic mafia".
Goodness me. After exploring the lists above for example "timeline of secret government projects" is enough to provide substantial oxygen to the subject of government conspiracy theories. Transferring this to the modern day it provides plenty of ammunition to "anti vaxxers" who may suggest that the pressure of receiving a jab by governments could have nefarious implications.
I am sure that any intelligent species having oversight on humanity would conclude we are still a primeval race. Others may argue that human sacrifices are all in the name of humanities advancement, although I personally believe the former assumption.
Jason Colavito wrote this article about L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology and H.P. Lovecraft's fiction.
Apparently, L. Ron Hubbard wrote about a Martian station in the Pyrenees.
Seems eerily similar to when Pat Price remote viewed a base beneath Mt. Perdu in the Pyrenees.
In 1973, Pat Price tossed a file containing information on four bases he remote viewed onto Hal Puthoff's desk. In the early 1980s, Hal Puthoff passed the same folder on to F. Holmes 'Skip' Atwater. Knowing what we now know about Scientologists involved in the Stanford Research Institute and the U.S. government's Star Gate Program, could that explain it? Atwater explained, "A famous set of caves in the Pyrenees have ancient drawings of ancient astronauts and flying spacecraft".
Atwater must have been talking about the Niaux Caves in France.
Jason Colavito also wrote this blog post about Theosophy, Scientology, and ancient aliens.
L. Ron Hubbard was involved with Rosicrucianism and Crowley's O.T.O. Both groups were influenced by Theosophy. Seems like Scientology was also based on Theosophy. Right?
When you see the opinions listed in the above blog Scientology / Theosophy it is very apparent that at least one has to be wrong in their assertions - it is probable both may not be valid.
Sure, their opinions and assertions are different enough to contradict each other. However, they are so similar as to be mistaken for telling the same story. Think of Scientology as an updated version of Theosophy. Theosophy was created in the 19th century. Scientology was created in the 20th century. Jason Colavito meant to show how L. Ron Hubbard's OT-III teachings closely parallel Helena Blavatsky's Theosophy as well as later versions of Theosophy according to W. Scott Elliot and A. E. Powell. Perhaps the reason why L. Ron Hubbard's OT-III teachings resemble a space opera version of both Theosophy and H. P. Lovecraft's fiction is because H. P. Lovecraft's fiction was also inspired by the Theosophical works of Alice Bailey. Right? Many popular myths about extraterrestrials are obviously inspired by or taken from Theosophy. That is why it is so important to recognize their true sources in order to distinguish provable objective facts from opinions from religions and speculative fiction.
I very much agree with being able to recognise original sources as it helps us in any validation process. It seems to me subsequent opinions on the facts, make the end findings totally unrecognisable compared to original findings in so many cases
Was the Invisible College of J. Allen Hynek, Jacques Vallée, and Hal Puthoff a non military organization with extraterrestrial links? Skeptoid Podcasts #787 and #788 are about a group whom Brian Dunning calls the "UFO Rogues Gallery".
Luis Elizondo was a soldier. Were Robert Bigelow, Tom DeLonge, and Chris Mellon in non military organizations with extraterrestrial links? Were the psychics of the Stargate Project at the Stanford Research Institute a non military organization with extraterrestrial links, or were the 'psychics' clever confidence artists? Was the National Institute for Discovery Science a non military organizations with extraterrestrial links? Robert Bigelow and Hal Puthoff co-founded NIDS. Jacques Vallée was on the NIDS board of advisers. In 2017, Tom DeLonge, Hal Puthoff, Chris Mellon, Luis Elizondo, Jim Semivan, Steve Justice, and Jacques Vallée formed the entertainment company To The Stars Academy, but most had left To The Stars by the end of 2020. Is the Esalen Institute a non military organizations with extraterrestrial links?
Cricky I have no answers to the question posed.
What I would tend to agree with is that protagonists of extraterrestrial disclosure who have had possibly an inside track at some stage in their formal careers will probably unlikely be able to reveal precisely what they know, which may cloud their commentary somewhat. Would we trust these people any less? I would go further, would we be concerned that they had the credentials for being a disinformation agent?
An example in the UK could be the observations of Nick Pope a former government employee as opposed Gary Mckinnon who intruded upon government held information.
The one that seemed to defy this categorisation that seemed to have credibility and seemed to have been allowed in reporting on his observations and beliefs was probably the Canadian Paul Hellyer who did not seem to care about his previous position in government.
Some fear the protagonists of extraterrestrial disclosure are disinformation agents. Others suspect they are confidence artists perpetrating a scam swindling millions of dollars.
Money can certainly distort reality
Here are some pages about Scientology's OT III.
Thanks for the above posts. It does seem to me that humanity has an inbuilt desire to believe and follow SOMETHING regardless of a movements credibility and sense. Whilst the Kardeshev scale of classification measures a civilisations technological advancement perhaps there should be a scale to evaluate civilisations ability to evaluate facts and ability for independent thought?
In recent times I have been considering the effects on social media on the masses which seem to have a colossal effect on human actions and opinions regardless of how nefarious the messages are to humanity. Could we be in a time where the reset button for humanity is being pushed with profound consequences?
Sure, perhaps we should. We could be, but I do not know for certain.
MUFON is a civilian organization. In 1994, MUFON was involved in a scandal entangled with Scientology and the F.B.I. in Tennessee according to this page from Charles T. Oliphant III.
That story may or may not be the most infamous scandal that involved MUFON in the 1990's. Ever heard of the Carpenter Affair? During the 1990's, MUFON's director of abduction research was the hypnotist John Carpenter. From 1995 to 1997, John Carpenter accepted $14,000 from Robert Bigelow for delivering copies of the case files of 140 clients who suspected they had been abducted without the clients' consent or permission to Robert Bigelow and his National Institute for Discovery Science.
The Carpenter Affair is not the only time when Robert Bigelow paid for MUFON's research. In 2008, Robert Bigelow's Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies subcontracted MUFON to write scientific papers and conduct field investigations of UFO sightings, but Bigelow did not reveal that their funding came from the Pentagon.
Are Robert Bigelow's companies non military organizations with extraterrestrial links? Robert Bigelow took government contracts to work for the U.S. Military. Retired U.S. Army Colonel John B. Alexander was a staff member of Robert Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Science. Colonel John B. Alexander's code name was Penguin in a mysterious group called the Aviary.