The Lacerta Files Interviews

Remember the Lacerta Files Interviews? Here is the English translation transcript.

Part of the interview translated to Spanish is on this page.

An audio version in English is on YouTube.

Notice the cover image is from an excellent episode of Doctor Who that tells a similar story in fiction. That is Neve McIntosh covered in special effects makeup to play Restac in the excellent Doctor Who episodes "The Hungry Earth" and "Cold Blood".

Lacerta is not an extraterrestrial alien. The interview tells the story of the first alien war between two advanced alien species 65 million years ago. Lacerta said that 14 alien species were active on Earth in 1999.


  • All of The Lacerta Files are on too.

    Has anyone here ever used

  • I have never used . Having just read the article it seems the author is a little cynical of the Lacerta Files.

    Do you consider a useful source?

  • I consider a useful source for fun information about popular fiction. The website also contains wikis about nonfiction, but Wikipedia exists for nonfiction. Honestly, there seems to be much redundancy in wikis. For example,,,, and more contain pages about the same topics covered on this website. Look at more of and notice that wiki covers more of the same obscure topics covered on this website than the other examples.

  • After checking Alien-Facts' social media today, I recognize the image in the most recent post.

    The image is also on this page. I recognize some of the drawings in the list of fourteen. 1 through 4 look like what are now called "Grays". 5 is Orthon who George Adamski met in the California desert. 6 is the beings described in the case of Antonio Villas Boas. 7 is one of the three eyed giant beings seen in the Voronezh Encounter in Russia. Notice the symbol on the belt. That is the same symbol associated with UMMO. However, the symbol is the only thing that suggests a link between UMMO and the Voronezh Encounter. The UMMO symbol resembles the sigil of Uranus. 8 is the Jawas from Star Wars. 9 is what Calvin Parker encountered in Pascagoula, Mississippi in 1973. 10 and 11 look like furry hominids. 13 is one of the Hopkinsville "Goblins" that scared the Sutton Family in Kelly, Kentucky in 1955. 14 looks like some drawings of a Chupacabra. Image search results for "Chupacabra" often yield varying images probably adding to confusion about legendary monsters.

    Do you really think that image shows all fourteen alien species Lacerta spoke of? 1 is from the Roswell Incident. Lacerta explained the Roswell Incident in the second interview.

    I have thought about who the three species from beyond this universe could be. I think they could be the nonviolent ETI from a contiguous universe mentioned in John Podesta's leaked e-mails with Edgar Mitchell, the Octorians from one of PIPERON's videos, and the Targzissians.

    Do you agree?

  • Sadly its impossible currently to confirm that, although it is a comforting coincidence to suggest to separate sources coming to similar conclusions.

  • Lacerta asked Ole K., " Are you familiar with your "quantum tunnel effect"?". I found this article about quantum tunneling and opening portals by Joseph P. Farrell, the author of The Giza Death Star.

  • I found this page with part of the transcript of the interview copied with added commentary by Michael and Stephanie Relfe into the response by the creator of Check the Evidence named Andrew Johnson to archived news from Hilary Kitching.

    Andrew Johnson, the creator of Check the Evidence, found this version of the transcript.

    That website may be untrustworthy.

    Stephanie and Michael Relfe are among the stars of

    Neither Michael nor Stephanie Relfe met Lacerta. They merely reproduced the transcript of the interview done by Ole K. in Sweden and added their own comments.

  • From the threads it seems the script first came into being at the end of 2004. You just wonder if it led to subsequent inspiration for ?

    I recall reading the script for the Lacerta files, which you have kindly posted and whilst initially impressed me as I almost hoped there was an existence of an underground city, I concluded that it was equally probable to be fiction as opposed to fact.

  • No, it was translated to English in 2004, but the interviews took place in 1999 and 2000 in Sweden.

    Release 30d on is titled The LACERTA FILE.

    Lacerta said her species evolved from a small species of iguanodons, not troodons or hadrosaurs. Fossilized skeletons of iguanodon were incorrectly reconstructed in early museum displays.

  • Crikey thank you for overlaying the two files. So Lacerta came first. In your opinion which file gained most traction and was more widely read?

    My personal opinion in answer to the above question was

  • You are welcome. I do not know. To find out you would have to check hit counters on the websites.

    Frank Zero and Recluse talked about this in this podcast.

  • The skeptics comments are common I suspect.

    "too unbelievable to be true" Mark Horne suggests, although that does not necessarily mean it is not true.

    Is it the lack of visual burden of proof that pushes this into the creative conspiracy box for the author? It reminds me of the billions around the globe that spend a great deal of their life dedicated to a god that they have never seen and yet for many controls their life and their generational threads thereafter.

    The concept of god despite the above skepticism, thrives regardless of conflicting stories as to its origins and the different interpretations of the same scriptures in some cases.

    Whilst on this subject of burden of proof, it could be said that if you weighed up all the unexplainable artefacts and extraterrestrial anomalies, including UFO's sightings spotted around the globe and on some close by planets in our solar system, their is likely to be more physical evidence to support the existence of extraterrestrial life than there is evidence to support the concept of god/religion that billions follow! A broad brush stroke statement I would agree, but possibly something to consider in answer to that question "where do we come from"

    Perhaps that is precisely why confirmation of extraterrestrial existence is difficult for vast numbers to accept?

  • I do not know. Somewhat counterintuitively, lack of visual burden of proof can make stories seem more realistic to many. Mark Horne also wrote, "My hunch is that the opacity of its provenance helps keep the air of mystery going, as it is surprisingly difficult to untangle this story’s origins from the relatively early days of the web. That it does not attempt to fabricate photos, audio or video may also help, as in an age of astonishing CGI and FX we are rightly weary and wary of such claims."

    Belief in religion does not any require burden of proof or evidence as it is simply a matter of faith.

  • Could one achieve a similar faith in out of world entities that seem to be able to roam freely around our universe and have powers that are well beyond human capabilities fit a similar status to religious icons?

    A race that could drag an artificial celestial body (such as the moon) into the orbit of a planet to assist and benefit in a planets development may possibly inspire faith like qualities in lesser beings.

    If humans are designed to have an appreciation of faith, could it be that those entities that seeded humanity have similar threads of faith themselves?

  • I do not know the answers to those questions.

    The author of this blog quoted the Lacerta Files Interviews in response to two interviews Dr. Michael E. Salla conducted recently.

  • If a civilisation was 200,000 or so years more advanced than humans, you would imagine that an ability to look different would not be too tricky. I suppose we ought to define shape shifting, or perhaps the use of holograms would be just as effective. Of course today a lot of social media users change their self images to flatter themselves using digital technology. Is that the start of the pathway to shape shifting?

  • Pointing the origin of shape shifting to one particular mythology is difficult. Changing images with technology is more like an illusion called glamour.

  • ha ha I guess so. Do we know which species have the abilities to shift their appearance to suite circumstances? Would you imagine that this skill base is used primarily not to shock those that they come into contact with? Could there be any other benefits to this ability?

  • Yes, if you are asking about animal species on Earth. Some animals can change pigmentation, shape, and skin texture to suit circumstances. Mutable rain frogs, golden tortoise beetles, cuttlefish, mimic octopus, porcupine fish, and puffer fish can change shape to fool others. Flounder, mimic octopus, chameleons, crab spiders, Peron's tree frogs, and golden tortoise beetles can change color quickly. Foxes, caribou, weasels, birds, and rabbits shift the colors of their coats seasonally for camouflage. Shape shifting is one of the all time great superpower fantasies in popular fiction, especially comics. If you are not asking about real animals on Earth, mythological creatures, or fictional characters, then I do not know how to answer that question. Yes, that is one way to use that skill, but it could be used in other more deceptive ways. That ability could be used as form of disguise to impersonate and infiltrate for espionage, reconnaissance, surveillance, and subterfuge.

  • Indeed, I failed to consider the negative capabilities that shape shifters could apply, such as capturing prey and all the above you mentioned. If evolution had facilitated this technology in nature it could imply potentially hostile forces were at large that need to be countered. However, if you are top of the food chain, then I suppose you could suggest that this technology could be used for nefarious purposes.

  • The author of Galactic Anthropology followed up on the post from December 30, 2021 with this post dated January 3, 2022.

    In a post script the author mentioned finding a website by Jamie Phillips. Obviously, Jamie Phillips lifted most of the story in this three part series from The Lacerta Files.

    Much of the story was not in The Lacerta Files and is probably from other conspiracy literature instead. Much of it is contrary to known science.

  • Having just come from some of your other fascinating posts today it makes me wonder if its true that there civilisations living under our oceans as well as civilisations living underground (as described in the Lacerta files) whether or not there is communication/interaction and mutual respect between the species?

  • Somebody would have to embark on an expedition to explore the deepest and darkest parts of this world to find the answers to that question.

    Some have asked and answered questions about the Lacerta Files.

  • Its testament to humanities inability to explore Planet Earth in a comprehensive fashion to be able to validate (or otherwise) these questions.

    The more we discuss these various topics together, the more I conclude that humanity has a substantial way to go, for us to be able to answer some of the questions we raise. Of course there is another part of me that thinks that factions of humanity have progressed far more than is let on.

  • A gaming modification currently in development is based on the "Lacerta Files".

  • Wow, the developer was obviously inspired with the original content

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